Yes, you can proceed with VP-147 lien sale even if certified mail returns as "undeliverable," "attempted - not known," or "refused." Nevada law requires you to attempt proper notification at the DMV-registered address, but you're not responsible if the owner moved without updating their address or refuses to accept the letter. The key is documenting your good-faith notification attempt.

This is the second most discussed lien sale question on automotive forums and r/legaladvice. Tow operators panic when certified mail comes back weeks after sending, thinking the entire lien sale process must start over. That's not correct. What matters is that you sent notification to the correct address on file with Nevada DMV at the time you mailed it.

📋 How to Document Undeliverable Certified Mail for VP-147:

• Keep the returned envelope: The envelope with USPS markings showing "undeliverable," "moved - no forwarding address," "refused," or "unclaimed" is your proof of notification attempt
• Keep the certified mail receipt: The green receipt showing you sent certified mail on [date] to [address from DMV records]
• Make copies for your VP-147 packet: Include copies of both the receipt and the returned envelope with your notarized VP-147 when submitting to auction or DMV
• Note the return date on your VP-147: In the notification section, write "Certified mail sent [date], returned undeliverable [date] - proof attached"

⚠️ Critical Distinction - Undeliverable vs. Never Sent: Nevada courts and DMV distinguish between "mail returned undeliverable" (proper notification attempt) and "mail never sent" (no notification attempt). If you skip certified mail entirely and claim the owner "couldn't be found," your VP-147 will be rejected and you could face liability for wrongful sale. But if you can prove you sent certified mail to the DMV-registered address and USPS returned it undeliverable, you've met Nevada's notification requirement.

💡 The 30-Day Waiting Period Starts When You Mail It: Confusion exists about when the clock starts. The 30-day waiting period begins on the date you send certified mail, not when it's delivered or returned. Example: You mail certified letters on May 1st to owner and lienholder. Owner's letter is delivered May 4th (signed green card returned). Lienholder's letter returns undeliverable May 8th. You can still proceed with lien sale on June 1st (30 days after May 1st mailing date) because you attempted notification to both parties.

🏢 Real-World Example from Las Vegas Tow Yard: Tow company in Boca Park area towed abandoned vehicle from apartment complex. DMV records showed owner at an address in Henderson. Certified mail sent September 1st, returned "moved - no forwarding address" September 9th. Tow company kept the returned envelope, waited until October 2nd (31 days after mailing), then had VP-147 notarized at their facility. Auction accepted the vehicle because notification attempt was properly documented. The vehicle sold, title transferred to buyer with no issues.

⚠️ When Undeliverable Mail Becomes a Problem: If certified mail to the lienholder (bank) returns undeliverable AND you cannot locate the bank through research (merger, acquisition, failure), consult an attorney before proceeding. While owner notification can be satisfied with undeliverable mail, lienholder notification may require additional steps if the lien is recent and valuable.

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